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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

HDR should not look dimmer, specially in an outdoor scene.

For how the color look it's a question of taste
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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

Is the brightness having to do because the x850c Received hdr compatibility through a firmware update @my_name_is?
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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

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Message 84 of 302 (1,231 Views)

Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

btw guys , i was in the shop today and tested 43ks7502 , i used the exact same settings for hdr on and off , to find out sdr looks almost exactly the same as hdr (good btw) , i googled it to find the answer  , and it seems samsung converts / upscales sdr to hdr quality !

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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

@my_name_is I've read all the articles you posted and I now have a firm grasp of what hdr really is

My problem now is that according to rting.com my 850c has a maximum of 282 bits of brightness compared to your 422 nits on the 850d model.

I'm wondering if there is a drastic difference of brightness between both of our models also I wonder how yours compares to the 930D that shoots up tp 1200 nits.

Hmm this hdr stuff is all so complicated and annoying
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Message 86 of 302 (1,223 Views)

Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

Well of course your TV won't be able to produce the best HDR, the nits output if just too limited.

HDR10 movies are encoded following a reference 1000 display.

So each TV below those specification must choose how to clip the detail your TV won't be able to produce.

And like they said in the article, each TV has its own way to do that, this is why two HDR TV with the same nits won't produce the same image.

Sony might be able to improve HDR quality on your TV.

Another idea could be to remove the HDR metadata from the feed but keep wider color gamut and 10 bits. A lot of people are doing this for their HDR projector because they hate HDR wide contrast.

HDR10 is a broken format is your ask me. A revision is coming however with dynamic metadata. that could help TV produce a better overall experience... Not sure however is our Sony will be supported.
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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

When I purchased my x850c I was hoping it was going to be at least future proof for a few years I'm in shock how in just 1 year it feels like it's garbage with all this hdr content coming out

I feel robbed... and disappointed
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Message 88 of 302 (1,206 Views)

Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

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There is a video of a guy with HDR on your TV

https://youtu.be/LD6dOMR2rpg

The picture look good and the guy said it's amazing.

He also said the image is much more brighter in HDR.

How does USB HDR video like Sony camp or life of pi look?
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Message 89 of 302 (1,195 Views)

Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

I haven't tried the USB videos only Netflix native app and Xbox one S hdr content so far..
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Re: Sony XBR55X850C hdr washed out colors

Also he has the 65" model which supports a full array backlight the 55" is only edge lit which I'm sure is the biggest factor here my tv just isn't bright enough for hdr so the colors become very washed out and dim

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