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Message 11 of 28 (781 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

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The AS50 has a different lens (way higher lens distortion) and no 4K.

 

I wouldn't trade it for an AS50.

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Message 12 of 28 (780 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

But is dimensionally -almost- identical to the X3000 and with no stabilization!
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Message 13 of 28 (777 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

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Sorry - I don't do Reddit. There is a forum for everything, and Reddit especially is a jungle... Had a quick look a while ago; that's all.

 

Disassembly of the X3000 is very simple. Remove all the screws, battery, SD card, and it slides out.

 

It would be interesting, one day, to disconnect the stabiliser because it is probably responsible for a fair bit of the 4 watt power dissipation which ensures the X3000 will shut down (due to overheating) in many situations. However it is a big issue only when running with external power, and most of Sony's market won't be doing that.

 

I posted this thread title for a specific reason. I am using a heavily modified waterproof housing (the Sony one) in my application, with an external power (USB) connector brought in, and the glass faceplate is ice protected (using an ITO glass faceplate glued to it with optical grade epoxy). I am not going to re-do it all for a different housing now.

 

If this X3000 does 4K in good quality, I will be happy. I have already proven that no stabilisation of any kind is needed. The reason I did not want to use the X1000 (which does unstabilised 4K) is as stated in the other thread: lots more distortion, no 256GB card support, and a curved faceplate on the waterproof housing which cannot be ice protected.

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Message 14 of 28 (772 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

The AS50 fits in the same case and has power in the same location. Only thing is of course no 4k.

I see youve done the modification, how is it holding up?
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Message 15 of 28 (768 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?


AnasMalas wrote:
 Only thing is of course no 4k.


That is not true - it uses a different lens and therefore it distorts the image more.

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Message 16 of 28 (767 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

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I should know within a few days whether this mod works.

 

As already posted, I am not all that sure whether 1080P *60fps* and *with the lower optical distortion* might not actually look better then 4K *30fps* by the time it is rendered to 1080P. The argument hangs on (a) lens correction replicating pixels and reducing resolution especially away from the centre and (b) 30fps being only marginally ok. But the 4K videos I have managed to get so far, jello notwithstanding, do look very good, and they interpolate OK to 60fps.

 

But there doesn't seem to be a camera with the X3000's lower distortion and a flat faceplate and which has a rigid sensor and does a 256GB card. And the X3000 does jello just the same at 1080P even though that uses only a part of the sensor!

 

Maybe some of the Go-Pro Session products would work. They don't need a waterproof housing (but they might need it for 200mph rain!) but how do you seal the power cable etc?

 

The problem is that I am trying to achieve a high quality result using "cheap consumer" equipment Smiley Happy

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Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

The perfect Actioncam would be chargable via wireless charging, so you can mount the camera (itself being waterproof) to a base (also waterproof), which has a coil inside of it and charges the battery.

That would eliminate the need of any open connectors or cables which need to be sealed off.

Yet I doubt action cam manufacturers will think of that option anytime soon.
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Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

I have just typed a reply but it has vanished.

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Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

Every time I re-post it it gets removed after some seconds.

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Message 20 of 28 (751 Views)

Re: Which camera is dimensionally identical to X3000 but has NO stabilisation?

Well, the USB cable mod to the waterproof housing took me well under an hour to do. That was easy.

I spent way more time chasing the other "Sony tricks" like you can't apply external power and *then* start recording. You have to start recording and *then* apply external power, and if you forget for too long, the battery will die. Also there is no remote control with external power applied; the wifi and BT work only when running on the battery.

That was after wast1ng so much t1me (not just me but others) with the X1000, discovering that external power doesn't work unless it is 5.1V or more at the moment the camera is turned on...

I am sure external power is not a factor for this market where most people just stick the camera on a bike or a ski helmet and get a quick and dirty video and are happy with that.

I am using the wrong product for this job, but there isn't a "right product". Years ago, Sony used to make bullet cameras which were good for this ($2000+) but the quality of even the X1000 at 1080P 60fps completely surpasses them now, even by the time you have lens corrected it on a PC. D-J-I do some stuff but it is quite a bit bigger...

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