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Apprentice
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎04-16-2017
Message 31 of 215 (2,282 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

that would be sad indeed, but shooting worse astro pictures now with my A7R2 than 11 years ago with my Canon EOS20d - yes I compared them side by side - makes me even sadder.

Specialist
Posts: 17
Registered: ‎02-27-2017
Message 32 of 215 (2,258 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

Yep, sadly Canon owns that space at the moment and it's not because they have the bests sensors. A few tweaks on Sony's part and they could own it too :/
Apprentice
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎04-16-2017
Message 33 of 215 (2,242 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

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sad but true. however, I've allready paid $$$ for an upcoming vacation in a country with excellent clear skies and virtually non-existing light pollution and I'm not even considering going there with a sub-par astro camera. I'm going to take great pictures of the night skies over there no matter what, preferably with my A7R2 if Sony solves this issue but I'll sell my A7R2 and buy a Canon/Nikon if I have to without shedding a tear.

Specialist
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-17-2017
Message 34 of 215 (2,227 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

guys, it is not only astrophotography, the effect is present on all pictures, with long exposure: night city scapes, star scapes, etc...

 

for those, when exposure is >3.2s, the actual resolution for point like details is divide by 4! my A7SII behaves like a 3Mpix! A7RII is like a 12Mpix! NO WONDER THAT THE NOISE RESULTS OF SONY SENSORS ARE GOOD WITH SUCH TRICKS

 

what is not acceptable is that all of this is made on the latest firmwares version which says "improves picture quality" without any more statement. this is irresponsible

 

SONY WE NEED REAL RAW !

 

please answer the community

 

 

Specialist
Posts: 17
Registered: ‎02-27-2017
Message 35 of 215 (2,213 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

Agreed - if this was provided as a clearly explained option, which could be turned off, then that's one thing but to sneak it in like that is ridiculous.
ADF Specialist
Specialist
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎04-18-2017
Message 36 of 215 (2,197 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

I wonder if the new Sony A9 will feature this cheat bit of software, but I'm seriously hoping that this issue is going to become more and more talked about especially if a modern top of the line camera can't take astro photos as good as something from 10 years ago, THAT will raise a lot of eyebrows........ bah! it's such a shame Sony

 

https://pics.me.me/you-were-the-chosen-one-14821129.png

Specialist
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-17-2017
Message 37 of 215 (2,148 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

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another one from last night, you notice the star eater on the remote street lights, as well as a significant modification of the textures of the "basilique du sacré coeur"

 

canon 70-200mm with sony A7SII

 

3.2s vs the SONY FIDDLED 4s exposure, 100% crop

 

DSC09528.gif

 

DSC09528_200.gif

 

ALL NIGHT PHOTOGRAPHERS NEED RAW WITHOUT SONY FIDDLE

 

 

Specialist
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-17-2017
Message 38 of 215 (2,138 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

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I added the 200% view of some of the different cases i got:

 

with low resolution sensors like sony a7s2, the loss of resolution for exposure time >3.2s is REAL DEGRADATION OF THE PERFORMANCE WITH LATEST FIRMWARE VERSIONS

 

DSC09520_200.gif

 

star_eater_200.gif

Specialist
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎04-22-2017
Message 39 of 215 (2,077 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

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HELLO SONY!!??

 

We really need new firmware to solve this silly star eater phenomenon!!

I need it for my A7RII !!

 

How many requests and comments do you need to correct this matter? Sony broke my camera with a new firmware. Now the 4 sec exposure is enough for this phenomenon to come up. Before it was 30sec. That, too, was in vain.

ADF Specialist
Specialist
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎04-18-2017
Message 40 of 215 (2,060 Views)

Re: star-eater algorithm in Bulb-mode shots - please offer alternative

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geeezez, those comparisons posted above are shocking!, the star eater is quite simply making the photos look yuck and removing that sharpness we are all after!

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