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Dailies Programs for XAVC

Anyone have a preference in a Dailies Program that will convert XAVC to ProRes?  Looking for a solution that is easy to bring into FCP7 to edit.

thaddeus @setla - chief content officer/DP/editor
Sony F5 F55 Users Facebook group
Setla Films

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

Nearly as always the answer is: Resolve Smiley Happy

 

Peter

 

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

I attempted this on my own a few months back and it was like learning japanese to me at first.  I finally called the product support number referred to me by a Sony friend on mine and I got a gentleman that walked me through the process with Resolve.  First I want to say that I want to hug that guy on the other end of the phone for making this process work and answer my questions, but the reality is that I am not the only one who has had this problem and it appears that everyone that has attempted to make a tutorial on this was making this so complicated that it didn't compute.  

 

Bottom line is that you are right... Resolve it way easy to use and I will get a tutorial out soon to help others in my position.  Thank you Sony!

thaddeus @setla - chief content officer/DP/editor
Sony F5 F55 Users Facebook group
Setla Films

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

[ Edited ]

last revised June 18th 2013 9:50am EST

 

I hereby also nominate Resolve. Remember the free Lite vesion of Resolve will open 4k XAVC files and render them out to HD resolution without restrictions. The full version will let you output 2k and 4k files.

 

After trying to create a set of dailies 100 times before getting it right - here's a basic run down and things to watch out for. I will try to post some screen shots eventually, this procedure can be used for either dailies or creating "off-line" files for editing. There are some differences in settings you might want to use depending which reason you are creating these.

 

IMPORTING AND CRITICAL SETTINGS

  1. Import your MXF files you want to convert in the MEDIA POOL section of Resolve. (Drag from the file explorer area). Once ALL your clips are down below select ALL OF THEM, right click and review the CLIP SETTINGS. Particularly you want to check that the DATA LEVELS are set to 0-1024 instead of AUTOMATIC. Now if these are really only for purpose of DAILIES you can select 64-940. If you shot slog2, 64-940 can remove a bit of that "slog2" look so directors don't freak out too much over a "pure" looking slog2 image. If you are GRADING or want to preserve the original slog2 look then definitely chose 0-1024.
  2. Click on SETTINGS (lower left) and check that your IMAGE SCALING is setup how you want. If you shot in 4k mode and outputting to HD you will end up with a thin black bar at the top and bottom of your video files if you chose "scale entire image to fit". For going 4k to HD I usually select "scale full frame with crop" so that the image fills the entire frame. Note however this does chop off some pixels from left and right sides.
  3. If you are scaling any footage (ie: 4k to 2k or 4k to HD) under IMAGE SCALING you can select between various filters that will increase/decrease quality or the scale but also increase/decrease rendering times.
  4. Also under CAMERA RAW options. If you shot in slog2 + sgamut then select SONY RAW, Decode Quality: Full Resolution, Decode Using: Project, Color Space: sgamut, Gamma:slog2.

 

OUTPUTING THE FILES

  1. Once you are ready to output all your clips select the DELIVERY window in RESOLVE.
  2. This took me 532 hours to figure out... to select ALL the CLIPS for your output go down to the timeline and on the timeline BAR right click and select ALL CLIPS. Sadly this took me forever to figure out, and I do mean forever.
  3. Now you need to chose your file output settings. For CODEC you might want Quicktime H.264 or Quicktime MPEG which are pretty good and can play on most PC or MAC computers. Otherwise there are various ProRes and Cineform options as well.
  4. Note your frame rate setting, compression quality setting, and don't forget to check the AUDIO box if you want to include SOUND in your output files.
  5. IMPORTANT one here: Under "SET TO VIDEO OR DATA LEVEL" you want to select "Normally scaled legal video" if you want 64-940 data levels, or "Uncaled full range data" for 0-1024 levels.
  6. If you want all your clips as SEPARATE video files there is a check box for INDIVIDUAL SOURCE CLIPS by the RENDER TIMELINE AS option. For dailies maybe you want one continous file, but I usually keep all of them separate so they can be easily referenced by unique filename if needed.
  7.  Select WHERE you want the files to save to. If you don't pick this you can not start the job.
  8. There is a checkbox to keep the original source filename. I recommend this option again so clips can be referenced back to the originals if needed. Also keeping the same file names has benefits if you plan to do any round trip editing wiith 3rd party software and back into Resolve for grading, etc.. 
  9. Once you are done setting up your output job, select ADD JOB.
  10. Once you are ready, START the job and wait several minutes to hours to days depending on how many clips you have and how long they are (and how powerful your computer is). 

 

Instructions with screen shots are now available on http://cinetiny.com/zX06CIz6

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

I guess the final question is about resolution.  In DR Light is the only HD resolution 1920x1080?  If I want to convert 4k footage to 2k resolution will I have to upgrade to the $995 version?

thaddeus @setla - chief content officer/DP/editor
Sony F5 F55 Users Facebook group
Setla Films

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

Two additional details:

In the project setting under scaling:

- Choose "Bilinear" for the fastest rendering performance. Looks excellent for Dailies. a bit on the crisp side, but 2-10 fps more when scaling from 4K on an imac 27"

- Set anti aliasing to "OFF" It defaults to on, but this will create a 1 px border around the outbut frame.

 

 

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

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Good point Setla and Anders, I will update my notes.

 

I also added a note about the DELIVER -> OUTPUT "Set to video or data level" which will affect the range of your output so be aware of this as well.

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

Premiere CC which includes Media Encoder CC was released today so there's another couple of ways to produce XAVC dailies. 

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

I just confirmed with Adobe, but it's only available through cloud based subscription.  booooooo

 

At least Davinci is FREE.

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Re: Dailies Programs for XAVC

Thanks Dennis for you help on this.  I posted your response on the F5 & F55 Facebook page I am the admin on.  https://www.facebook.com/SonyF5F55Users 

thaddeus @setla - chief content officer/DP/editor
Sony F5 F55 Users Facebook group
Setla Films

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