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Registered: ‎09-26-2014
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AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Dear Fellows, 

 

If i would like to upgrade the OS from vista to Windows 10, can anyone of you offer any insights on:

-driver's issue

-version issue

-and others.

 

My laptop is AR-770, currently running on Vista SP2, 32 bit. I checked the hardware, are capable to run Wins10. And, it says it is capable of 64 bits version. 

 

But I am concern about drivers issues, I don't see much update sicne 2013, not to mention, for 64 bits for my laptop model. 

 

Will it be wise and conservative to say: if making the switch to Wins10, better to stay with 32 bits?

 

Also, any insight for drivers concern? 

 

Thanks 

 

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Registered: ‎12-15-2015
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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Hello,

 

According to the listed specs, the laptop's hardware should be compatible to Windows 10 64-bit.

 

You can't upgrade from Vista to Windows 10. Officially you have to purchase a Windows 10 licence. Unofficially you may purchase a cheaper Windows 7 licence, get a Windows 10 November 2015 ISO with heidoc.net Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool and do a clean installation. Maybe it also works with the latest version of Windows 10, downloaded by MS Media Creation Tool, but i don't know. I also didn't try the unofficial method by myself yet. But there are several sources explaining that it still works although the official free upgrade period expired on July 29th, 2016. If you decide to try the unofficial upgrade method, have a look at the Upgrade paths to see which Windows edition licence to choose.

 


lafite1968 wrote:

Will it be wise and conservative to say: if making the switch to Wins10, better to stay with 32 bits?


No, because with a 64 bit Windows you have the option to install both 32- and 64-bit software. The second benefit is the use of 4 GB RAM, if the BIOS allows it. Maybe you have to enable this via BIOS setup. Actually, your Vista 32-bit uses 3,5 GB RAM only, although your laptop has 4 GB installed.

 

Before you install Windows 10, you should update the firmware of your ODD (Blu-Ray or CD/DVD drive) to the latest available version, if not already done. The update software presumably runs under Windows Vista 32-bit only!

 


lafite1968 wrote:
But I am concern about drivers issues, I don't see much update sicne 2013, not to mention, for 64 bits for my laptop model. 

...

Also, any insight for drivers concern? 


Many drivers will be installed by Windows 10. Other drivers you have to install by yourself. It's better to look for them after Windows 10 installation and updates.

An exception is the driver for your GPU Nvidia Geforce 8600M GT. You will need this workaround to install the latest available legacy driver from Nvidia, which is Windows 10 compatible. Some people have problems to modify the INF file correctly. Maybe the easiest way for you is to tell me the hardware id of the GPU, so i could add it to the appropiate INF file and link you to a walkthrough, which i already made to help some others.

 


lafite1968 wrote:

... any insights on:

...
-and others. 

Don't install Vaio Care and/or Vaio Update after Windows 10 installation! You won't benefit from them anymore. They will only slow down your system.

The software essentials to install from your support site are:

- Notebook Control and Utilities -> Sony® Notebook Utilities

- System Components -> Sony® Shared Library, Sony® Firmware Extension Parser (driver (32/64-bit it is), which presumably has to be installed manually via device manager.)

 

That's all i can write at the moment. Just ask, if you have questions about unknown devices and driver installation. Please add the hardware id of the devices always. This will make it much easier helping you to find appropiate drivers.

 

Good luck!

 

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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Hello Joutungwu, 

 

Thanks for yr reply...

 

regarding additional info, here it is...

Nvidia is 8600M GT, not sure about the ID you refered to..??

 

I also have external devices:

Canon imageglass MF4350d printer --I heard there are tons of problem with Win10 & printer !!

external hard drive-WD Ultra/My passport

SlingBox Pro

Google/ LG cellular phone Nexus 5 (OS android)

old Sony Ericsson cellular phone Satio u1i (OS symbian S60)

 

Regarding the windvd BluRay player, honestly I somewhat gave it up already. As I mentioned, latest update available was 2013. The Windvd player version was 8. Corel/WinDvd don't even have version 8 available anymore, and can't find any update key available from it's company website. Many people I came across from the forum also have the same problem, and sony's UK and Japan's website's update are not good either. I bet, Sony no longer pays WinDvd's $ for update and Corel wants to sell version 11 or 12...If you have some insight, please let me know...

 

Million thanks

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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others


lafite1968 wrote:

..., not sure about the ID you refered to..??


How to get the hardware id

 


lafite1968 wrote:

Canon imageglass MF4350d printer --I heard there are tons of problem with Win10 & printer !!

external hard drive-WD Ultra/My passport

SlingBox Pro

Google/ LG cellular phone Nexus 5 (OS android)

old Sony Ericsson cellular phone Satio u1i (OS symbian S60)


In doubt, have a look at the manufacturer's websites if their devices are Windows 10 compatible. At first sight, i would expect all of these devices to work with a Windows 10 OS. But i can't predict if you have issues or not. This also depends on your experience to solve such problems.

 


lafite1968 wrote:

Regarding the windvd BluRay player, honestly I somewhat gave it up already. As I mentioned, latest update available was 2013. The Windvd player version was 8. Corel/WinDvd don't even have version 8 available anymore, and can't find any update key available from it's company website. Many people I came across from the forum also have the same problem, and sony's UK and Japan's website's update are not good either. I bet, Sony no longer pays WinDvd's $ for update and Corel wants to sell version 11 or 12...If you have some insight, please let me know...


Your Sony Vaio edition of Corel WinDVD won't work on a clean Windows 10 OS. I tried that recently on the Vaio model VPCL12S1E and it didn't work. Obviously, the BD/DVD player software is bound to the original recovery OS version of any Vaio. If you want to play copyright protected BDs or DVDs after Windows 10 installation, you may have a look at the free Leawo Blu-Ray player.

 

By the way, this has nothing to do with the firmware updates for your BD/DVD drive (Mat******a BD-MLT UJ220S or Optiarc™ BD-ROM BC-5500A?). You should check the firmware version before deleting Vista 32-bit, because the firmware update utility is most likely not compatible with Windows 10 64-bit.

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Message 5 of 14 (328 Views)

Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

[ Edited ]

Hello, 

 

Here I think is the graphics card ID, and Thanks for the blu ray player link, I will try....Million thanks 

 

PCI\Ven_10DE&DEV_0407&subsys_9016104D&REV_A1

 

 

 

Expert
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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Hello lafite1968,

 

i updated the walkthrough to the workaround. Just follow it after Windows 10 installation to install the latest driver 342.01 for your Geforce GPU.

 

Two things i've to add:

1. If you don't have a recovery for your Vaio Vista 32 version already, i highly recommend to do this before the installation of Windows 10 to have the opportunity to get the old OS back if the installation fails unexpectedly!

 

2. I have to correct myself about the Windows 10 versions. According to the sources i read, the november 2015 version can still be used to upgrade Windows 7 or 8 to 10 after the free upgrade period expired in July 2016.

But you have to do a clean Windows 10 installation anyway, so you should try the MS Media Creation Tool first, which will download the latest Windows 10 version available. After creation of Windows 10 installation media, you should be able to use your purchased Win 7, 8 or 10 licence key to activate it. This should work for clean installations only, according to my sources. Until now i didn't have the chance to confirm this by myself.

 

Joutungwu

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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Hello JoutungWu, 

 

Thanks for the update--walkaround, I will take a close look.

 

Regarding creating the Recovery disk, i do have a Sony dvd 4disc, just that for an unknown reason, the last dvd disk that I believe contains Sony's drivers and setting, somewhat could not load 100%, although tried with several times (last time when I had to re-install Windows due to blue screen of death). The other thing you refer to, was VAIO UPDATE, is there a way as to UNINSTALL it from my existing system prior to creating a Recovery disk? 

 

Second quesion-as a back-up, IF it does not work out, do you recommend ChromeOS ? 

 

Million thanks

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Registered: ‎12-15-2015
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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others


lafite1968 wrote:
The other thing you refer to, was VAIO UPDATE, is there a way as to UNINSTALL it from my existing system prior to creating a Recovery disk?

You should be able to uninstall software like Vaio Care or Vaio Update via Windows Vista control panel.

 


lafite1968 wrote:

Second quesion-as a back-up, IF it does not work out, do you recommend ChromeOS ?


I have no experience regarding Chrome OS. Maybe it is an alternative. The most common alternatives to Windows are Linux distributions like Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and many others. But i don't know if you'd be able to play copyright protected Blu-Rays on them. Also a driver to use the Fn+Fx keys may not exist for Linux OS.  You can try out many Linux distributions without installing them by booting a Linux Live media (created on CD, DVD, USB storage device).

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Message 9 of 14 (170 Views)

Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others

Hello JoutungWu, 

 

Thanks for yr reply again, surely clarify many issues. Oooh another thing, my laptop is equipped with Intel RAID, there are 2 physical hard drives insides, besides my drives are partition as C and D drives.

 

Intel RAID is set as Raid 0, for speed, as I have another external hard drives for storage. 

 

Since I have this Intel RAID, do I need to set up RAID again for Windows 10 before clean installation of Windows 10 ? Million thanks

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Re: AR-770 move to Windows 10...some advice needed for driver, version and others


lafite1968 wrote:
Since I have this Intel RAID, do I need to set up RAID again for Windows 10 before clean installation of Windows 10 ?

Have a look into your BIOS options. If RAID is the selected mode for the SATA configuration, i guess Windows 10 Setup will recognize it during installation. Then you shouldn't have to change anything.

 

I don't know much about RAID but if two HDDs are combined to RAID 0 or RAID 1 array, i guess they are always running and therefore consuming energy. This could be a disadvantage in battery mode. Choosing AHCI will allow the second drive to go into standby, if it is not used after some time.

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