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New Manual Focus Method for Sony ILCE

by ymnno Rookie ‎03-03-2017 04:56 AM - edited ‎03-03-2017 06:31 AM



I'm an a6000 owner and one of my reason choosing Sony is the ability to adapt wide range of lens. Until nowadays i've adopt various legacy manual lens (minolta, konica, rollei, etc) and really like the experience with those legacy lens.


The current methods i use for focusing for manual lens is feels rather slow or less reliable:

- Focus magnifier is precise but slow

- Focus peaking is fast but not precise (especially at high f-stops)

- Moire focusing (by is in the middle between precision and focusing speed


Therefore, from that experience i have an idea to increase either focusing speed and precision for manual focus fans (like me).

The basic idea is the focusing method of rangefinder camera, so we can modernized the method.


What Sony can do is:

- what we want to focus in manual lenses are still using the same "focus box", as well as the "focus box" size (small, medium, big)

- there are variable option for focus multiplier of the "focus box" (2x, 5x, 10x)

- the "focus box" is still movable on entire frame, just like the current "AF box"


These are the example of the new method of manual focus. i'm sorry, i can't find a way to show an image here Smiley Sad 


Full view image


When manual focus method is use in center of the frame


The "focus box" can move to left side


If Sony can implement this new method, please don't forget to update all ILCE line up


Would like to be able to select a phase detection focus point, preferably with any manual focus lens and not just native lenses, and when that point registers being "in focus" the camera takes a picture. This is similar to how Smile Shutter works. Some other manufacturers have a similar feature. Being able to take a burst or bracket would also be a big plus. 

Sony a6300 suggestions : Improve 1080p, raise temperature limit, and many others!

by dboris Apprentice ‎04-20-2016 01:35 PM - edited ‎10-10-2016 02:00 AM


I'm a member of a facebook page about the Sony a6300, with many a6300 owners. I took time watching reviews, and consulting customer's feedback. I came here to talk for them, and I may edit, add suggestions on this post.
The overheat warning isn't as much present as it was since the last firmware update, so I removed the suggestion.


  • 1- Improve 1080p
  • 2- Many user's suggestions!
  • 3- Improve remote app - in detail


1- Improve 1080p 

The a6300 4K capabilities are amazing, but many want to avoid rolling shutter, or to shoot S35 30/50/60/120p. To be honest, unless sticking the camera on a tripod, or for very slow movements, the 4K mode is hardly usable and makes the footage jerky. So we have to stick with 1080p. But the a6300's 1080p is bad. It's not even as good as it's little brother the a6000. It's not acceptable since it should be an upgrade from it. The a6300's processor is a beast, I guess the processing power shouldn't be a problem. The Fujifilm X-Pro2 that isn't a movie-mode oriented camera, has the same CMOS and has an amazing 1080p quality, less moiré, less noise.
The A7RII offers even better 1080p, and has far more pixels to process. The implementations of it's algorithm in the a6300 shouldn't be such a big deal. Therefore, giving us a far superior 1080p seems realistic.

a6000 vs a6300 (click) 

a6300 vs X-Pro2 (click)

A7RII vs a6300 (click) 


Now let's talk about the noise:

4K has far less noise than 1080p with the same settings. The noise patern is better. Here a comparaison with both at ISO800, 24p, Slog-3. Why can't we get the same noise performance in 1080p?


4K vs 1080p noise performance (click)


We also would love also to get a higher bitrate (is 100mbits possible?) to reduce the color noise we get when grading LOG footage.


2- Many other suggestions!


- Bigger histogram. Exposure metter that's more readable. It's locked to -2 and +2, that's not enough.

- Being able to use it as a webcam, to record directly on the computer (as a capture device) into premiere. It's great for creating content, but may be hardware-limited :/.
- Try to reduce the rolling shutter in 4K mode (I guess Sony is aware of this and it's not possible...).
- Get rid of the NTSC/PAL warning, or show all modes without having to stuck to only PAL or only NTSC

- Being able to see what is ISO value when shooting with AUTO-ISO.

- Add other customisable functions, ex: iso up/down, focus up/down.

- Being able ton set custom Zoom Speed with RM-VPR1 remote. Right now with 18 105 I can't access the "zoom" menu, and the zoom speed is veeeeery slow. So I can't change it remotly.

- Being able to custom W/T buttons, and the shutter and rec buttons. So when using the RM-VPR1 remote, it could be used for other functions, example: pull focus up or down, change ISO or aputure values, etc. Would be AMAZING when used on a gimbal.
- Let us use all AF fonctionalities when recording a video. It's so frustration to be forced to either AF manually or let the camera do it all! Why not let us use DMF mode?

- Save Custom Functions in the Memory Profiles

- Regroup all video functions on one page in the menus

- Fix the markers; they doesn't match what's in the EVF when recording
- Place "Format" function in a more convenient place
- Being able to send only one picture to our PC directly from the camera. Not having to sync all the pictures.
- Enable continuous af & eye af while shooting in hi speed
- Improve the compatibility with A-mount lenses:

     Lock on expandable flexible spot while using the la-ea3 adapter

     Drive Mode HI+ not available in AF-C mode

- Improve adapters stability with A mount. Not normal that Sigma's MC-11 is more reliable than Sony's adapter

- Being able to control the EVF sensor (more details in the comments). Idea already suggested here for the A7RII. Would benefit all the Alpha line.

- When using slog picture profiles, we have to over expose by 1 to 2 stop, in order to get a descent image quality. We'd like to see a exposure meter that is also reliable when used with s-log, so without having the need to over-expose.



3- Remote app improvement detailed -tested last app version 22/04/2016-

The a6300 doesn't have a touchscreen, but it has Wifi and can be used via Playmemories app. So it can be controled via our phone and tablets. The app have recently vastly been improved. So I will only cover the video part of this, since it's near perfect for photography. It seems that the Playmemories app isn't as good as it could/should be for video.


Latency is ok ! Latency with an iPad, is very low, and satisfaying.


  • In-App limitations are annoying! I firstly thought that the video stream was limited to 1080p etc. But in fact, you can record 4K in 24p, and still get a video stream via wifi on your Ipad! There's no processing-power limitations! You just have to be first in video mode (on the wheel) parameter what you want, and then launch the remote app. But you can't change your advanced settings (video quality, picture profile and so on!) I'm so happy now! So it's really just an app-fix! So what we want: get all the video parameters available in the remote app! All of them! 


  • Touch to focus isn’t there ; the app doesn't allow to touch to focus during video (by taping on the screen of your phone or tablet) while many competitors, and even Canon's 80D allows it. It works in photo, make it work for video!


  • It’s too consummer-oriented ; Actually, the app is ok for video, for people who do video blogging, or such. To be honest, I doubt that the casual consummer will take the time to use their camera with a tablet nor see any interest into that. Therefore, it should be more pro-oriented. The UI right now looks lame and isn't nice to use! Better to have simpler UI with more features than fancy animations. What we want:

- Get everything out of the way. Nothing function should be layered on top of the video feed (especially that W/T function!)

- Being able to see focus peaking 

Being able to see Zebras
- Being able to shoot in Slog/with picture profiles

- Full screen page with settings/light meter/histogram with the ability to tap and drag a setting to change it on the fly, in a more simple way. Being able to change not only aperture and shutter, but also picture profile, audio levels, and so on. It would be really useful when on a gimbal or a drone; the camera can hardly be manipulated to set it up.

- Being able to personalise this setting page like the a6300 allow us already

- Being able to get the video feedback through USB for less latency, both on PC/MAC and ANDROID/IOS. Canon's does that. Would basically makes any Ipad/tablets, a better monitoring screen than anything on the market. Fortunately Sony doesn't sell those. So... Smiley Very Happy


Expanding video possibilities via wifi would please all videographers, since everyone has at least a smartphone, and every videographer would be happy to make it's phone useful in any way possible. Many competitors aren't there yet, so make the step first.




Thanks for reading and we appreciate that Sony is concerned by it's custommer experience.


It's available on other apps and should be easy to implement....would be a huge addition to the app. Thanks.

I read an interview which is done with Kimio Maki, Senior General Manager of the Digital Imaging Business Group a few days ago during Photokina 2016.


Mr.Maki said: "It’s usually a request from our general customers, however it’s not a request that we get from professionals. We may have to add touchscreen panels to our entry-level models, but professionals don’t require it. If the professionals change their mind and put in the request we may need to change this in the future."



Well, I think the comsumer survey they've done needs an update. Professionals surely do require it. It's right that you need to change.




Here're the professional and enthusiast cameras implemented with touchscreen published lately:


Canon 1DX Mark II (not fully functioned)
Canon 5D Mark IV
Canon EOS M5 (with touchpad AF function)
NIkon D5
Nikon D500
Nikon D5500 (with touchpad AF function)
All M43 Cameras (with touchpad AF function in Panasonic cameras)
Leica SL
Leica Q
Hasselblad X1D
Fuji GFX 50S


I guess the users of the cameras above are professional enough.


Here're the ones without a touchscreen:


Fuji X-T2
Sony A7R2, A7S2, RX1R2, A6300
Sony A99 Mark II
Pentax K-1


Ususally Sony won't show up in the "without" list when it comes to untraditional features.




Now let's see opinions of people who are considered as professionals.



A7R2 is highly rated in DPR, but this is what they thought the biggest drawback of it, so do many users:
“No direct access to AF point selection is bordering on inexcusable for a camera of this class: first pressing a button and then using a mushy 4-way dial to move the AF point is cumbersome. A touchscreen could've helped, especially if it functioned while using the viewfinder like the Nikon D5500 (so as EOS M5 and Panasonic Cameras), but alas, there is none.”



What DPR staffs think about EOS M5:
"In fact it's the implementation of this touchscreen that we're most impressed with. Much like the system developed by Panasonic, the M5 not only lets you use the rear touchscreen to position focus, it also allows its use as a touchpad to move the focus point, when you're shooting through the viewfinder. This, combined with decisive autofocus, should be really significant for both stills and video shooting."



They also regard touchscreen with Dual-Pixel AF as one of the most significant features of 5D Mark IV:
"You can use the touchscreen to navigate menus, access options on (and populate) the Q menu, and perhaps most importantly, touch-to-focus in both video and stills Live View. And if you don't want or need it, you can disable it altogether. As for us, we like it, and using speedy and accurate touch-to-focus on a rear screen instead of laying on our stomachs in the dirt for a low-angle shot is always an added plus."



This is Canon's official opinion on the touchscreen of 5D Mark IV:
"In the past, touchscreen operations on a high-end camera might have been looked at skeptically by traditional, experienced SLR shooters. After all, if we’ve evolved from relatively simply 35mm film SLRs to today’s sophisticated digital SLRs, using buttons and dials, why change a good thing?
But as mentioned in our opening, even the most tradition-bound camera user probably uses a touch-based interface regularly, when he or she pulls out their smartphone or mobile device.  We’re all more accustomed to this type of immediate, tactile input (well, nearly all of us!).  Canon has a track record of excellent touchscreen design in more consumer-oriented cameras, and that technology and its convenience has trickled up the food chain, to the EOS 5D Mark IV.  Unlike the recently-introduced EOS-1D X Mark II (our top-of-the-line, professional DSLR), the 5D Mark IV is blessed with the full touchscreen interface, and all the attendant options.  We’re confident that new EOS 5D Mark IV users who give it a try will find it really can help speed up some of their menu selections when examining images during playback.  We certainly urge anyone thinking of trying out this camera to give the touchscreen interface a test drive!"

('s opinion on Fuji X-T2 not having a touchscreen:
"Cameras need a touch screen.  I used to think I wouldn’t use a touchscreen on a camera until I got one that had it, and suddenly it was the only way I wanted to control the camera."

('s opinion on Fuji X-T2 not having a touchscreen:
"Just below the thumb dial you'll find an AF joystick again inherited from the X-Pro2 which makes it much quicker and easier to reposition the AF area; admittedly not as quick and easy as a touchscreen would…. and in my view touchscreens would greatly enhance all X-bodies; Fujifilm has already proven they can do touch controls well with the X70."



There're also thousands of complaining threads in professional and enthusiast forums. Here're some examples:

Why is Sony so reluctant about touchscreen?


Sony Needs to Make it Quicker to Change Focus Areas


Serious question - what's the a7rII missing?


Thought on touch screen implemented in the 5D Mk IV?




So, I think I've already made my point clear.

Professionals DO need touchscreen! Please add it to your next high-end camera!



Please add Plex to your development list.  I was disappointed to find that this app is offered by other brands but not on Sony TV's.  This is a must have for home media servers.  Thanks.



Many people feel Sony is the best when it comes to camera sensors.


Whenever Sony comes up with a new camera, sometimes they receive firmware updates to correct bugs, add features, etc.


Problem is, such firmware support is time limited, as any time Sony brings out a new camera, the preceding model gets forgottgen and no more new updates seem to show up.




  • The Nikon D700 was introduced in 2008, was discontinued in 2012 (4 years after introduction), but the last firmware update came out in 2013 (5 years after introduction, 1 year after being discontinued).
  • Compare that to the Sony A7, which was introduced in 2013. The last firmware update for it is dated 2015, a mere 2 years after introduction.
  • Same with the Sony A6000. Introduced in 2014, last firmware update is dated 2015, and the succesor already came out. *One year only*.
  • Etc.


People see that as Sony just wanting to pump out more bodies. People understand that you need to make your profits, but many potential buyers consider after sales support essential, and part of such support includes constant, timely and useful firmware updates.


So, please, provide better long term firmware support for all cameras, current and future.


Thanks for your time.



Peolpe from Europe are reporting that 3rd Party lense such as Sigma and Tamron does function with the 399 Phase Detect af points on the A99ii. This is 3200 dollar camera that does not do what it was advertised. Please Sony Fix This!!!